while reading the magazines the other day it occurred to me that jws never really had a very good answer to that question.
because it was aimed at young people and it said something along the lines, "if you believe in god you have a purpose, but if you don't believe in god your life has no purpose or meaning".
i think that is a faulty analysis of the situation.
Yes, However, most Christians are very ignorant of the history of their religion and their holy book. I am willing to bet that more than half would quit Christianity if they studied in depth those two subjects (bible and history of Christianity)Sorry about meddling in others' debates. I just couldn't help itOkay so now you're saying it is possible to be a Christian without being either ignorant or dishonest.
while reading the magazines the other day it occurred to me that jws never really had a very good answer to that question.
because it was aimed at young people and it said something along the lines, "if you believe in god you have a purpose, but if you don't believe in god your life has no purpose or meaning".
i think that is a faulty analysis of the situation.
Me too but I was talking about in the context of the problem of evil. Evil still have no known explanation even in an atheistic scenario.
Does goodness have an explanation?
Oh! I forgot, it came from the asshole who inspired the Bible and thinks women are worth half as much as men and many, many other "good things"
while reading the magazines the other day it occurred to me that jws never really had a very good answer to that question.
because it was aimed at young people and it said something along the lines, "if you believe in god you have a purpose, but if you don't believe in god your life has no purpose or meaning".
i think that is a faulty analysis of the situation.
Purpose of life? who gives a rip. You create that according to your capacity. I just wanted my post to be #400. Maybe that's just as good a purpose as any other. I better hurry before someone beats me.
EDIT Damn it! I lost my purpose in life. Thank a lot looter (sarcasm). You really are a piece of work.
this notice is not official yet and it should be confidential until released thru the proper channels.
a friend of mine told me about a huge elders meeting in southern california.
the subject was the relocation and dissolution of some congregations; it seems that this is the result of some project that has been going on for some time and is going to be implemented right now.. please let me know if this is happening all over the country?.
Do you have the original text in Spanish?
Do you know what circuits are we talking about?s
My family belongs to the east side of the San Fernando Valley area, but I stopped attending meetings years ago. My take is that attendance is lower now than five years ago when I was a regular at the weekend meeting. One thing I have noticed is that people jump from congregation to congregation more often. About half of the members, the hard core, rarely move. The others are there, testing the waters, for few months and then move.
just a remembrance of the woodland hills, ca assembly hall.
i am enclosing a partial copy of a wikipedia article covering the purchase and subsequent sale of the facility by the jw.
i am enclosing the link and please pay attention to the bold portion of the document.. the theater project was backed by entertainers bob hope and art linkletter, along with cy warner.. the 2865-seat facility opened july 6, 1964 with the sound of music.
30 million!!!, then they get a property 80 miles away (Norco) for quite possibly under a million. The brothers and sisters now have to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars in extra gasoline and car wear and tear to get to the cheap facility in Norco. Is there some benefit to society? None whatsoever; it's a waste of scarce resources that we should preserve for future generations, but the Watchtower profited handsomely. That's all they care.
my brother isn't a witness but he was raised one like we all were.
after 15 years living his own life he decided about a year ago to have a bible study.
this being the case, as a non baptized witness he can still speak to me but he's getting a lot of pressure not to from elders and the rest of my family.
Your pathetic! You have a chance to at least steer your brother away from the cult and you do nothing. Some brother you are. You could of at least steered him to places like this or other internet site about the bible and all its problems or jwfacts something. He's almost asking you to tell you something yet you do nothing. You suck!!!!
Easy crazyguy. Paleemperor knows his situation and his family a lot better than you do. He is acting out of love to his brother. That's good enough for me.
Besides, there are some people who are better off in a cult than out. His brother may be one.
my brother isn't a witness but he was raised one like we all were.
after 15 years living his own life he decided about a year ago to have a bible study.
this being the case, as a non baptized witness he can still speak to me but he's getting a lot of pressure not to from elders and the rest of my family.
If only mom and dad had emphasized more secular education and less cult education, your brother would have been fine today. Oh well, wishful thinking.
for my first shunniversary i reached out to the local ex-dubs that i know.
i invited 11 total to join me in a little get together at a local restaurant, then back to my house to hang out.
one friend asked if he could invite others, and i encouraged him, and all, to do so.
Agree with previous posts (Simon, Stan)
It's not good for Simon's website, but actually putting exJW-ness behind is a healthy path. In fact, in an effort to put an end to my own attachment to ex-jwness, I am getting a license to ride motorcycles, the classic type. I already own a Honda Shadow that I have never ridden. Who knows, I may graduate to a Harley. But your meetup may have failed for that reason. Many may not get that excited about JW talk.
i am of the opinion that the wt doctrine is influenced more by external factors that it is by internal ones.
one of the doctrines that has puzzled me for some time is the armageddon prediction of 1975. why would the wts make this prediction?
what was their real purpose?.
Steve,
You are playing watchtower tricks by using extreme examples. Overall, percentages are more meaningful than absolute numbers. Slim has a good point.
I can play the same trick, but better. Actually, in this case is not even a trick: Killing 10 people in one day in a town of 100 people is far more shocking than killing 10 people in Mexico City (population over 20 million). It's 10 % versus .00005 %. Percentages here, as in most cases, are more relevant because they provide context; absolute numbers don't..
http://news.nationalpost.com/news/religion/alberta-appeal-court-rules-judges-can-overturn-unfair-church-edicts.
the other day, this court decision was posted on jwn along with a link to the court document, but few expected the media to pick up the story.
so to all involved, i understand it was a surprise to see the story in print.
Elders will be hung out to dry by the organisation again.
Why stop with the elders? They didn't write the procedures manual.
